25 Or 6 To 4 was a huge hit for Chicago.
It is, perhaps, their best known song these days.
It is also one of those songs that has sprouted numerous theories as to the meaning of the lyrics.
And many of those theories are still out there today.
In fact, most still believe one of the various theories, and not the truth.
And the truth is that Robert Lamm, the writer of the song, has explained exactly what it means.
Keep reading for the complete 25 Or 6 To 4 lyrics and their meaning, as explained by the song’s author himself. But be warned. If you’ve heard one of the many bizarre theories, the truth will likely be a letdown.
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25 Or 6 To 4 Lyrics And Meaning
The song was conceived in the middle of August 1969. That is an important month in the history of music, because the Woodstock festival took place that month.
But this story takes us to the opposite coast of the country, to California. There we find Robert Lamm, keyboardist, singer, and founder of the band Chicago, working on what would be the band’s second studio album: the homonymous Chicago.
This was the first album that the band published under the name of Chicago. They has originally called themselves Chicago Transit Authority, but due to legal problems with the actual transit authority of Chicago, they decided to simply go with the name Chicago.
The entire (double) album is full of memorable music, but the track that has remained most in the memory of the general public is 25 or 6 to 4.”
There have been a number of theories as to the meaning, with most believing the tune to be about drugs. It was even banned in Singapore for years (not that unusual, since they banned a lot of songs), due to the alleged allusions to drugs.
However, the meaning of this song actually has nothing to do with drugs, according to Lamm himself. Let’s take a look at the lyrics, before going into their meaning.
25 Or 6 To 4 Lyrics
Waiting for the break of day
Searching for something to say
Flashing lights against the sky
Giving up, I close my eyes
Sitting cross-legged on the floor
25 or 6 to 4
Staring blindly into space
Getting up to splash my face
Wanting just to stay awake
Wondering how much I can take
Should I try to do some more
25 or 6 to 4
Oh yeah
Feeling like I ought to sleep
Spinning room is sinking deep
Searching for something to say
Waiting for the break of day
25 or 6 to 4
25 or 6 to 4
Alright
25 Or 6 To 4 Meaning
As mentioned, the most common theories about the meaning of this song believe it has to do with drugs. Specifically, they believe that the title refers to the chemical formula of lysergic acid (LSD).
Another similar theory says that 6 to 4 refers to LSD, because if you take the acid at 6 pm, the effects last until 4 am, 10 hours later. One more states that it is the unit of measurement of cigarettes that you can make with the contents of a $10 bag of marijuana.
The reality is that Robert Lamm himself has clarified the meaning. And it is much simpler. The title refers to the specific time of day when he composed the song: “Waiting for the break of day” — at 25 or (twenty)6 minutes to 4 am (that is, 3:35 or 3:34 am). As simple as that.
And he took the time to explain in more detail:
- Waiting for the break of day – he had been up all night and it was almost morning
- Searching for something to say – he was trying to write the lyrics of the song
- Flashing lights against the sky – seeing the hotel’s neon lights flashing
- Giving up I close my eyes – he was exhausted, so his eyes hurt
- Staring blindly into space – this is an expression commonly seen on the faces of writers and reporters
- Getting up to splash my face – something you probably do when coffee no longer keeps you awake
- Wanting just to stay awake, wondering how much I can take – the moment when you wonder how much longer you’ll have to stay awake to finish writing
- Should I try to do some more? – this line is one that really makes people interpret the song as a reference to drugs, and it is completely obvious why; in reality, he just talks a little about the frustration the writer feels and wonders how much more he will have to do to write; some writers set limits of minimum words to write each day, and this was probably the case here.
In a chat with musician Chris Isaak, Lamm recalled that, at that time, he shared a house in Los Angeles, specifically in the Hollywood Hills. From his room, he could watch the sunsets with the silhouette of the city in the background.
In this framework, the musician found himself working on a song in which he wanted to describe what the composition process represented for him.
At one point, while he was describing what he saw around him, he noticed the time on the clock: it was 03:35 in the morning (or 03:36). To refer to that time, you could say that there are 25 minutes left until 04:00.
And although initially, it served Lamm to fill in a little more text, he ultimately kept that line in the song.
Feeling like I ought to sleep
Spinning room is sinking deep
Searching for something to say
Waiting for the break of the day.
This final verse completely encapsulates the whole song. The artist wants to sleep, and should be sleeping, since the room is starting to spin from tiredness. But he doesn’t want to sleep until he writes something down.
“Waiting for the break of day” may indicate that the artist is unable to write anything during nighttime and maybe he needs daylight and sunshine as inspiration. Or simply states that the morning is near and he’s still having trouble. The first chorus says:
Sitting cross-legged on the floor
Twenty-five or six to four
Sitting cross-legged on the floor could mean that the artist is meditating, trying his best to focus and find some words, any words, worthy of the song. Nothing helps, neither meditation, splashing the face with water, looking out of the window…
So the numbers simply represent the time. And since it is almost 4 am, that means the struggle has already lasted for a few hours.
25 Or 6 To 4 Lyrics Meaning: Final Thoughts
So that was the mystery behind those numbers. Seen this way, perhaps it took away some of the magic, but it is also true that this is better than some of the bizarre theories that are out there surrounding the meaning (specifically those related to drugs).
Yes, the song would be more metaphorical and therefore quite more interesting, but be that as it may, connecting Chicago with drug-related songs is simply unimaginable.
From the beginning to the end it is a captivating piece. Although if we were to highlight some parts, it would be the long and great guitar solo that Terry Kath scored. It is not exactly the one you will see in the video, however, since that is a re-recording that the group did in 1974.
Usually, this is the song that Chicago plays at the end of concerts. On some tours with Earth, Wind, and Fire, it gave both groups the opportunity to put on a trumpet display with the voice of Philip Bailey, who replaced Peter Cetera when he left the group in 1985.
When you start looking in to song meanings, you find a lot of examples where fans read so many different things into the lyrics, but the artist eventually explains that they are very straightforward. The meaning of the In The Air Tonight lyrics written by Phil Collins are a great example.
There are also extremely cryptic songs that weave together various types of images and influences. A good example of this are the lyrics to The Weight and their meaning.
For another song about a specific person (and a group of people at the same time), take a look at our breakdown of the lyrics and meaning of Tiny Dancer by Elton John. In his case, he sings about the person (and the people) in a positive light.
Given that they were the Chicago Transit Authority, is it possible that it’s transit lines ?
As in … the ‘25, or 6 to 4’
I don’t live in Chicago to have know the transit system ( back in 1969 ) or if such a train / bus numbering system was used, ( or the locations such routes might have delivered a person to Let the treasure hunt begin.
Cam I
I lived in Chicago for a year after college and I don’t remember the trains having numbers. They had colors. But perhaps, they also had numbers. Or it could be bus lines. Interesting theory, either way.
Hi Camila …
I went down the rabbit hole last night and checked old CTA maps.
25, 6 and 4 were all bus lines servicing the loop in downtown Chicago.
Perhaps not coincidentally, Lamm went to Roosevelt University in Downtown, 1 block in either direction from the routes mentioned above.
I tried to find out where he was living with his mom in the years attending ‘Roosevelt’ to study music, but had no luck.
He supposedly wrote a lot at a young age, and could have incorporated these everyday bus directions into a lyrical line.
< going to University ? … or his dealer ??
From the best I can ascertain, back in the day one strand of the nb “25” ran from 108th street and Ewing … and the nb “6” from South Lake Shore and 79th.
If I’m not delusional, that means Master Lamm would have had to have lived North of 79th street to have the ability to take the ‘25 … or 6 to 4’
< the 4 transfer being made closer to downtown.
If someone knows Lamm’s childhood address it would help … or perhaps just kill more brain cells.
Cam I ( in Vancouver BC )
Amazing, thank you for all the additional info! You may be onto something here.
I ant emember where I read it but I was led to believe that the reason the song came about was the band had met at a friends house with the intention of writing songs for their next album but they for some reason they had a mental block and decided to crash out and try again in the morning but Robert lamb woke up and asked what time was and one of the band members looked at his watch and replied its 25 or 6 to four
Interesting. I did not find that info in my research.
To this day, the song is still fabulous
The thesis by Camila is quite silly. Connecting Chicago with drug-related songs is not “simply unimaginable.” LOl.! It was 1969. Is connecting Chicago with the antiwar movement also unimaginable? 4 am in the morning is about when mesc or acid would have worn off; you’re in a spacey no man’s land, you can’t sleep…you wonder if you should do some more. (Yes, of course, he was talking about the time of day.) Those of us who heard the song in ’70 knew exactly what Lamm was talking about. If he’s chosen to disassociate himself from the drug context, that’s understandable — but disingenuous. The most “bizarre” theory available is that these guys wouldn’t have experimented with drugs.
If Lamm had taken LSD, he would have problems going to sleeping. The lyrics suggests that he was fighting to stay awake. “Givind up I close my eyes” and “I splash my face” are sure signs of trying to stay awake, rather than trying to sleep; unless he was crashing, then there wouldn’t be he could do.
Thank you for the clarification. Always wondered the real meaning. Great writing, played by a great band.
I was recommended to try out for the guitar position when Terry passed, and the band finally considered continuing. Jose Feliciano recommended me to Caribou Management. They contacted me and had me learn 10 of the songs. I was coming to California on a family vacation, so the audition would have worked out well.
In the morning, I received a phone call as I was about to head for Danny Seraphine”s house, stating that the band had decided to go with a friend of Danny’s, namely Donny Daucces. (sorry about the spelling)
It was dissapointing that I never got to audition with them. When I saw Chicago in Detroit, I didn’t think Donny was a fit at all. I wished they could have heard me. When Bill Champlain finally got the job, I felt the right guy had been chosen.